A Reply To An Atheist Regarding One Of My Posts

consumed in darkness
A person without God is consumed by darkness

I got some questions and comments from an atheist named Neil who used to follow Christ at one point in his life but decided to abandon his faith in the Living God and apostatized. I would like to share what he said and my response. The post relating to his comments is found here: Our Faith Depends On Trusting In The Bible

The demons will always use people to attack the source by which our faith gets nourished [Matthew 4:4]. 

[Neil the atheist said

“How can the fall of Adam and Eve have anything to do with their losing faith in Scripture? There can have been no scripture to believe in (or not.)

Incidentally, the Bible does not refer to itself as ‘the Word of God’. It reserves that title for Christ. Your transfer of the term to the Bible is a form of idolatry.”

[My reply]

Neil“How can the fall of Adam and Eve have anything to do with their losing faith in Scripture?”

SpaniardVIII-That is because you have given the wrong meaning to the word “faith”

Faith can only be seen in action through the word “trust.”

What is faith? Many people say that they believe in God, does that mean they are saved? No. True faith means to commit your life to Jesus Christ and trust Him to guide you, knowing that He has the best for you. If a person says he believes in God but does not entrust himself to Christ is that real faith? By no means.

Adam and Eve did not trust in God’s guidance and wisdom for them as she wanted to be her own god. That was Satan’s temptation for them. Satan wanted them to be independent of God.

Genesis 3:4-6

4 The serpent said to the woman, “You won’t really die, 
5 for God knows that in the day you eat it, your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” 
6 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took some of its fruit, and ate; and she gave some to her husband with her, and he ate it, too.

Neil“There can have been no scripture to believe in (or not.)”

SpaniardVIII-Of course, they had it. When God spoke to Adam not to eat the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden. Adam, in turn, told Eve God’s Word. So, they did indeed have the Word of God spoken to them. They only had one command to follow from the LORD.

Neil“Incidentally, the Bible does not refer to itself as ‘the Word of God’.”

SpaniardVIII-Yes, it does. 2 Timothy 3:16-17, “16 Every Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

SpaniardVIII-If you notice, the word “Scripture” means Bible and the word “God-breathed” means the Words that came from the mouth of God given to men by the Holy Spirit which has been penned in the Bible.

Neil“It reserves that title for Christ. Your transfer of the term to the Bible is a form of idolatry.”

SpaniardVIII-Yes, Jesus does have the title “the Word of God.”

The second half of your statement is false. Jesus said in Matthew 4:4, “But he answered, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.’”

If you notice that the words “mouth of God” connects to 2 Timothy 3:16 which refers to it as Scripture. All Christians must live according to what God has spoken which is the Bible. In Romans 10, faith comes from hearing the Word of God. A Christian’s faith is nurtured through the Scriptures. You see, the Bible reveals God’s will and shows you what God likes and what He dislikes. Also, in Matthew 7, Jesus said that by living according to His Word, we will be immovable through the storms that the enemy hurls at us because through the Bible a person holds on to Christ our Rock, the solid foundation. The Bible is the only source we have to know about the true Jesus Christ and He uses it to speak to those who love Him and is faithful. God does not delight in apostates.

Hebrews 10:38
But the righteous will live by faith. If he shrinks back, my soul has no pleasure in him.”