A Reply To An Atheist Regarding One Of My Posts

consumed in darkness
A person without God is consumed by darkness

I got some questions and comments from an atheist named Neil who used to follow Christ at one point in his life but decided to abandon his faith in the Living God and apostatized. I would like to share what he said and my response. The post relating to his comments is found here: Our Faith Depends On Trusting In The Bible

The demons will always use people to attack the source by which our faith gets nourished [Matthew 4:4]. 

[Neil the atheist said

“How can the fall of Adam and Eve have anything to do with their losing faith in Scripture? There can have been no scripture to believe in (or not.)

Incidentally, the Bible does not refer to itself as ‘the Word of God’. It reserves that title for Christ. Your transfer of the term to the Bible is a form of idolatry.”

[My reply]

Neil“How can the fall of Adam and Eve have anything to do with their losing faith in Scripture?”

SpaniardVIII-That is because you have given the wrong meaning to the word “faith”

Faith can only be seen in action through the word “trust.”

What is faith? Many people say that they believe in God, does that mean they are saved? No. True faith means to commit your life to Jesus Christ and trust Him to guide you, knowing that He has the best for you. If a person says he believes in God but does not entrust himself to Christ is that real faith? By no means.

Adam and Eve did not trust in God’s guidance and wisdom for them as she wanted to be her own god. That was Satan’s temptation for them. Satan wanted them to be independent of God.

Genesis 3:4-6

4 The serpent said to the woman, “You won’t really die, 
5 for God knows that in the day you eat it, your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” 
6 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took some of its fruit, and ate; and she gave some to her husband with her, and he ate it, too.

Neil“There can have been no scripture to believe in (or not.)”

SpaniardVIII-Of course, they had it. When God spoke to Adam not to eat the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden. Adam, in turn, told Eve God’s Word. So, they did indeed have the Word of God spoken to them. They only had one command to follow from the LORD.

Neil“Incidentally, the Bible does not refer to itself as ‘the Word of God’.”

SpaniardVIII-Yes, it does. 2 Timothy 3:16-17, “16 Every Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

SpaniardVIII-If you notice, the word “Scripture” means Bible and the word “God-breathed” means the Words that came from the mouth of God given to men by the Holy Spirit which has been penned in the Bible.

Neil“It reserves that title for Christ. Your transfer of the term to the Bible is a form of idolatry.”

SpaniardVIII-Yes, Jesus does have the title “the Word of God.”

The second half of your statement is false. Jesus said in Matthew 4:4, “But he answered, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.’”

If you notice that the words “mouth of God” connects to 2 Timothy 3:16 which refers to it as Scripture. All Christians must live according to what God has spoken which is the Bible. In Romans 10, faith comes from hearing the Word of God. A Christian’s faith is nurtured through the Scriptures. You see, the Bible reveals God’s will and shows you what God likes and what He dislikes. Also, in Matthew 7, Jesus said that by living according to His Word, we will be immovable through the storms that the enemy hurls at us because through the Bible a person holds on to Christ our Rock, the solid foundation. The Bible is the only source we have to know about the true Jesus Christ and He uses it to speak to those who love Him and is faithful. God does not delight in apostates.

Hebrews 10:38
But the righteous will live by faith. If he shrinks back, my soul has no pleasure in him.”

(Part 9) The True Darkness Of Atheism

An atheist choosing to live for sin rather than for righteousness and becomes a fool

Mr. Bruce Gerencser in the past has blogged against my preaching about Jesus Christ. And lately has felt threatened again, so he has felt the push [through the devil] to attack me and another brother in Christ named Victor who has a blog called: Victors’ Corner.

I welcome his attacks because it shows that I’m making a dent in the kingdom of darkness. Through that poor soul, you can see the devil’s manifestation.

Bruce Gerencser the apostate turned atheist said:

“Atheists, in particular, aren’t shy about telling Victor and other zealots like him that their beliefs are rooted in fantasy; that the Jesus they love, adore, and worship, lies dead somewhere on a Judean hillside; that the only thing awaiting Christians after death is darkness, silence, and decay. Is it no wonder, then, that the Victors of the world view atheists the way they do?”

What this man said truly exemplifies what a fool is.

Insight: A Fool

Someone who is senseless without any discernment when it comes to spiritual matters and morality. One who knows or has been exposed to the truth but still rejects it. 

All he does in his blog is a rant against Jesus and His followers even though he wanted nothing to do with Jesus. Why does he continue to attack Jesus who he doesn’t believe in? Because his life is dedicated to doing the devil’s work. He is so blind that for not wanting anything to do with Jesus, Satan has manipulated this poor angry man to create a blog solely for [slandering] Jesus.

He claims to have a great and full life without Jesus, but why is he so bitter?

By devoting his life to attack Jesus shows that he is hurting really bad inside and is trying to take it out on God and those who follow Him.

Now you see what type of life an atheist lives. One of hatred, confusion, cursing, blaspheming, lying, and emptiness. They don’t “believe” in sin so they can enjoy being evil and vile. How dark your heart has to be to love sin so much that you have to convince yourself that there is no such thing as sin and yet, they acknowledge that lying and stealing is wrong. But, if they don’t get caught, for them it is okay.

Psalms 53:1

The fool says in his heart, “God does not exist.”
They are corrupt, and they do vile deeds.
There is no one who does good.”

That is what happens when you trade the Living God, Jesus Christ for the pleasures of this life, it destroys you and those around you.

2 Peter 2:21

“For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness than, after knowing it, to turn back from the holy command delivered to them.”

Hebrews 10:29

“How much worse punishment do you think one will deserve who has trampled on the Son of God, regarded as profane the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and insulted the Spirit of grace?”

Pray for Bruce and his family that they may repent for rejecting Christ. Also, pray for their health and well-being. 

My friends, do not believe in the lie of atheism. There is a God who is holy and righteous. Jesus said that the only way to the Father is through Him [John 14:6]

The sun, moon, and the stars, all point to God’s existence. And God has revealed Himself in the person of Jesus Christ. Jesus loves you very much and wants to forgive you of all your sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus died for your sins and on the third day rose from the grave, seated at the right hand of Almighty God. If you truly believe this and ask Jesus to save you, He will.

(Part 8) The True Darkness Of Atheism

This is your heart on atheism, any questions? Believe in God

I had a discussion [under the comment section] with KeepTheFire who claims to be an atheist and below in his comment, the truth comes out in what truly is in their hearts.

Look, their so-called no evidence for God cry is so outlandish that in reality, they don’t reject God for no evidence [for there is an abundance of it], but their rejection of God is based solely on emotions. They cannot comprehend how God can bring judgment on any nation.

The reason an atheist cannot understand what righteous judgment is, because they reject what sin stands for. For them, sin is a way of life which they love to wallow in like a swine to mud. The world which comprises of people like atheists [haters of God] and those who want nothing to do with Jesus or the real Jesus have a deep hatred for God’s punishment on sin because that is why they live for. The heart of the world is pure darkness and devoid of anything good that pleases God. 

[KeepTheFire: an atheist said

“Blah blah…
I don’t reject God. Because he doesn’t appear to exist.
But I can tell you that if you could prove to me that he does exist, then I WOULD reject God. Right to his face.
The God of the Bible is an immoral monster, and deserves to be rebuked for all of the atrocities carried out in his name.”

When an atheist enters a Christian’s blog to debate him or her for the existence of God, it is not to see if the Christian can provide them with the evidence they pretend to seek. The reason they go to a Christian’s blog is to try to subvert their faith in the Living God. Why? Unknown to them, Satan their god whom they don’t believe in is using them and in their ugliness, seen when they attack God, is a manifestation of the devil reigning in their soul. That is their only purpose in life, to do the devil’s desire. 

If they truly didn’t believe in God’s existence, why then go through all the trouble to debunk Jesus? The answer is obvious. To stifle their conscience of the reality of God’s punishment for their sins. They want to feel good about their sinful lifestyle. They love money, being self-centered, practice homosexuality, lie, steal, hate, use profanities, and satisfy the lust of the flesh.

Anything righteous and good, they detest. That is the reason why they cannot stand God because He is the standard of righteousness and goodness. 

This is what Scripture says about the atheists

John 3:19-21 [Emphasis Added]

19 “This, then, is the judgment: The light [Jesus who is the truth] has come into the world, and people [like the atheists] loved darkness rather than the light because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone who practices wicked things [through the lust of the flesh] hates the light and avoids it, so that his deeds may not be exposed [to hide their true intentions]. 21 But anyone who lives by the truth [those who believe in Jesus Christ and hold on to God’s Word] comes to the light, so that his works may be shown to be accomplished by God.”

Despite their actions and hatred, Jesus loves them and wants them to repent and put their faith in Him.